The Wisdom of Rivers (short)
The Wisdom of Rivers
Max reflects on rivers as the Earth’s veins: moving mineral, memory, and life through a landscape—and on caves as the dense, sheltering bones of the Earth.
Rivers as Living Earth
Max: I want to talk about the technology of rivers.
Rivers are now seen mostly as a problem to deal with, or something that’s pretty. But they are part of the living Earth.
They transmit minerals. All around, they transmit DNA and heavy DNA—one of these.
They also change the energetics of that region. Birds fly differently over them. Animals can’t necessarily cross them. They’re barriers, and they’re also the source of life and drinking water.
There are different types of rivers. You can have turbulent water, or you can have laminar water. Laminar water is smooth and easy, and the things that grow there are going to be different than the things that grow in turbulent water—in terms of the plants and the animals.
Walking Through Earth’s Veins
Lulu: The Earth told me one time that riverbeds and washes and living rivers are her veins.
And so, because they are her veins, they contain some of the most information and data.
It was encouraging me, when I was living in Arizona and New Mexico, to take my walks in washes and to be in a state of total presence. So that when I walked through these veins of Earth, I would be absorbing the DNA of things that had been deposited in another area and then moved down into this area that I was walking through.
The DNA and minerals and all of the data embedded in that dirt were communicating with me.
A River of Information
Max: For a brief moment, while Lydia was talking, I kind of zoomed out of our thing and saw what we were doing from the outside. It was so cool.
It was so cool to see people talking about these things, and to have the science world and the intuition and guidance about the world. I think to be a fly on the wall in the middle would be awesome.
But you wouldn’t know, so we’re going to have to write a subscription thing and get printed on our shirts—our journal QR code—so people can search it. That way, they can zoom in and follow and read along in the future.
On our backpacks and water bottles and things.
The thing we’re doing is just an interesting role in the world. It’s simply an interesting role. We’re sort of like our own river, with our own DNA transfer and our own information and minerals.
People can simply flow with us.
Caves as Earth’s Bones
Max: Lydia sees a big cave. She looks at it like it’s home.
Lulu: I had been channelling this very deep nature—nature witch, at the bottom of a ravine in Italy—she was explaining to me at that time the many different rituals and technologies that she used to sync herself with nature, to make her such a powerful being where she spoke and the elements responded to her.
She was so in sync with nature that all of nature became part of her body, and reality around her flowed with her intention because it was an extension of her body.
In the same way that we can choose to move our leg or our arm, life responds to us in this way because we are connected to it and we acknowledge Earth as part of our body.
But she was telling me that caves specifically are this technology. Caves and really rocky mountains like this are like the bones of Earth—these really compact, dense minerals that contain such a compact amount of information, that contain the memories of the core of the Earth.
Caves weren’t only slept in to keep people safe. They were really a technology: when we sleep in caves, we again absorb this information that’s deep in the bones of Earth.
It’s sort of like a little womb—a little vagina for it. You can sleep in it, except it’s cold and dirty.
Max: I mean, I slept in some caves long ago. Maybe we’ll make a cave recording later on.
The feeling when you’re in it is really unique. It’s a profound submissiveness, like seeking shelter from nature, like in nature.
I find it quite fascinating.
