Initiating the Pope/Rooting for the Vatican 🇻🇦

This post is an old, initially unpublished dialogue about magic we did with the pope on August 12th 2026 in Rome.

A later post we made discusses the results of this effort: the Vatican publishing an article on September 2nd about the critical importance of nature and feminine root chakra.

This shows the critical importance of unlocking your individual body‘s abilities, and the capacity with which we can impact reality. We all have gifts of significant magnitude, learning to leverage them is the journey.

The Vatican Experience

Masculine:We have the breakdown. We have the Pope and his conditions—

Feminine:Wait, but we didn’t articulate those conditions. We haven’t gone over that.

Masculine:That’s fine. Hold on. Let’s keep going.

We have our fight, which we’ve gone over mostly, but we didn’t go over the solution we figured out: making it measurable. Basically, making oxytocin a measurable thing in my body, and maybe dopamine a measurable thing in your body.

From there, we unified and went to the Pope.

We listened to the Pope, and several things happened. There was the umbilical-cord plug-in. There was the cord wrapping around my arm and preventing me from doing more magic. And I was told by those beings that you must heal yourself within.

That was interesting because it almost felt like it was happening under the radar of the beings at large. They were almost like, Yo, chill, bro. Don’t get caught.

Then, after Lydia plugged into these people, there seemed to be an awareness of it. Almost a meeting of: What is this thing?

The Pope might have said, “I feel strange,” or, “I have pain in my chest,” or something like that. And they seemed to see this happening and were trying to figure out what it was.

Feminine:How about I just narrate the experience I had?

After we reconciled our fight, I plugged into your body and gave you a bunch of oxytocin, and we were able to reunite.

That felt very symbolic. We reunited around our mission, and the mission was basically the only thing keeping us on track in that moment. Otherwise, we probably would have just been like, Fuck off.

Then we got to Vatican Square.

Once the fucking Pope came out, I kept having this experience where my spine was reaching down into the core of the Earth and tethering itself to the deepest parts of Earth consciousness—or Mata consciousness.

That energy would cycle through my body, move upward, and reach into the Vatican and the Basilica. It felt like it was disrupting the energy there—almost trying to destabilize the hold that structure currently has on the world.

My body cycled through this multiple times.

Then the Pope walked back into the building.

Immediately, I felt what I’ve been calling the Mata gene create an umbilical cord from my belly button.

It looked like a blue energetic line.

It tethered itself to his body.

The moment that happened, my whole world started swaying around me. It almost felt like an earthquake. I had to open my eyes and think, What the fuck is going on?

I almost lost my balance.

Masculine:I saw this.

Feminine:Yeah.

And I felt him feel the connection.

I felt him encounter what seemed like the first memories of primordial fucking mother consciousness—the pain of the Earth, the pain of this electrical-chemical imbalance, his own participation in it, and the emotion behind all of that.

Then I felt these other beings in his sphere become alarmed.

Almost like:

What the fuck is this? Is this some kind of sonic weapon? What the fuck is happening?

That was basically my experience.

Max seemed to receive more instructions, though. I didn’t really get that part.

Masculine:Yeah. For me, I had almost the flip side of the experience.

I don’t often talk much about it, but I was alternating between being inside Lydia’s energy and separating myself from it.

When I separated myself from it, I was able to do a lot of magic of some kind.

There were various layers to this.

At one point, Lydia and I united and held hands. We formed a geometric line perpendicular to him, if I remember correctly. We weren’t parallel.

And we did a lot of magic.

Moving energy. Shifting things. Connecting through Lydia’s body. Weaving things together.

Then I distinctly remember taking what seemed to be the same blue pipe.

I called it from his body and slammed it into Lydia’s body—into her umbilical region.

For me, it was really the sacral region.

But it distinctly dipped downward so that it plugged into both legs simultaneously and equally, lighting both of them up blue.

The entry point was somewhere around two inches above the belly button—somewhere in that region—and then it shot downward.

The moment I did that was when Lydia started rocking backward and forward and swaying.

And I felt him begin to quake at the same moment.

That was when I started receiving instructions.

It was essentially:

This is what you need to do.

After a few moments, I took my consciousness and my expectations off it.

Then the message became:

My job is to expose Lydia.

It didn’t really specify what that meant. That was the clearest information I had at that moment, because after that the data started getting funny. The signal on my end became a little goofy.

Later, another instruction came through.

Now that she was plugged in—or they were plugged into her—I needed to plug her into the geometric alignments across the Earth that early humans had created for this specific reason.

Places like Borobudur.

There were various places. I couldn’t see all of them. I think the pyramids were involved and other structures like that.

But one thing was distinct:

I have to take her to do this.

She has to do it.

And through being physically present and helping her, something about my own mission gets unlocked. Whatever I’m supposed to learn or do there becomes available through supporting her in doing this.

It also became very clear that I’m in a support role.

No matter how far I go in my own life, I may never possess this thing that Lydia has—whatever this maternal-lineage thing is.

So I have to play support for her.

And if there is a way for me to gain access to whatever this is, supporting her is probably how I get there.

After that, I kept trying to do magic.

Basically, I was like:

I’m going to keep trying.

Electrical magic, probably.

Then one of the crew members appeared energetically.

I experienced him as an elderly man. Very poised.

He put his hand up.

Then chains—or a rope—wrapped around my right arm and stopped me.

And the message was basically:

Take care of yourself.

Focus on your own growth.

It was actually quite compassionate.

It wasn’t demon energy. It wasn’t hostile.

It was more like:

Yo. Take care of you. Don’t worry about this guy right now.

Balance yourself, and everything will be balanced.

Or something like that.

The Vatican Experience — Continued

Masculine:We just discussed the moment where I was told to focus on my own growth.

It specifically said:

Focus on the growth between you and her, but also it’s about yourself. Each must be for yourselves.

I don’t know if that dude told me or what told me, but that came through. It was like a council came through.

From there, we got a little bit back and forth. Maybe you can fill in, because the next thing I really got was when Lydia went to get water or lemonade.

I went to the center of the square to look at the Basilica, and I got this click:

This place is perfect.

For the electrical, they’ve done it almost as well as it can be done.

It’s not fully true, but it was something like this.

And that’s why they don’t feel like they’ve done wrong. From their perspective, it’s almost:

Others have failed. We are the ultimate.

That was the sort of download I got.

But back to Lydia here.

Feminine:I remember feeling like whatever had happened there was the template—or the format—we were going to use in all these different places we went to.

The way I was tethering myself to the core of the Earth in that place, and then tethering myself through this Mata gene or whatever to either a site, an ancient ruin, a person, or a collective of people.

And then the way our energetics were working with one another.

Because ultimately, our energies were literally collaborating toward the same thing, even though we hadn’t talked about it.

They were doing the exact same thing.

Facilitating the same thing.

And I felt that this was the template we were going to use when we went to these different geographical points on the Earth: reconnecting these places—and the people there—back to this.

My body would basically serve as a bridge to the core of the Earth and to the Mata gene.

Then I went and got the lemonade.

When I came back, the main experience I remember having was a continuation of what we had resolved in the conflict between you and me earlier.

If I continue to demonize this hyper-electrical thing, rather than feeling empathy and compassion for it and wanting to bring it home, I won’t be able to unite it back to Mata consciousness and create balance in the world again.

Because this was the thing you were saying about these electrical people:

We’ve done it. We’ve reached the pinnacle of this thing. This is a beautiful and great creation that we’ve produced.

If I continue to demonize it and exist without compassion toward it, I can’t bring it home.

It’s only through loving empathy and compassion that my body can do the thing it can do—to bridge this missing gap in the genome or something.

And somehow oxytocin is like a mycelium.

The thing about oxytocin is that it can’t be produced without love, affection, compassion, and empathy. The mycelium doesn’t extend out to other things without that.

It physically can’t happen.

It’s almost like a built-in law.

If you really want to extend this key—this solution—out into the world and bridge this gap, it can only happen through that.

There is a duty to it, yes.

But the mycelium itself only works if there is a felt sensation of love and empathy.

Masculine:And then later we went into the Vatican itself.

Feminine:Yeah.

Masculine:That was the next day.

And that’s where the pain of the other side of this came out—the challenge of maintaining that compassion while seeing the horrors in there.

Specifically, what was depicted on the doors: people being tortured, carved into the doors.

Feminine:Yeah.

So the next day we got really deep into this thing of ancient genes and these ancient humans, and the parts of those genes that are still present in certain people, but how most people actually don’t have those ancient genes anymore. They have them—

Masculine:I think we should pause.

I think we should stick to Pope stuff right now.

Feminine:Okay.

Masculine:Pope and Vatican stuff.

We went inside and had this experience of the horrors there. Lydia felt it intensely in her body.

And that basically crushed us from there on.

An irrecoverable energy drop.

I don’t remember exactly when, but on one of those two days, when we departed from the Vatican, we were both very chemical.

Super chemical and embodied.

It was quite unique.

So that was significant.

But what happened on the Pope day? We—

Feminine:The Pope day was the day we got that super-chemical, embodied feeling.

It was the next day, when we went into the Basilica, that we crashed.

Masculine:We crashed.

Feminine:And before we went into the Basilica, my chemical body actually said:

Don’t go in there.

It said, Don’t go in there.

But we—

Masculine:We went in because we were seeking questions, and we already had so many answers.

Masculine:Input the next audio.